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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:14 pm

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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:38 pm

im so confused i thought namine was kairis nobody? i guess i dont know as much abbout this game as i thought
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Post by Abigail Parker on Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:40 pm

Hmmm...

I know this is gonna make me look crazy, but...

Is it possible for a Nobody to have a Nobody...? Or maybe something completely different?
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Post by Mitsuki Ishida on Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:56 pm

Nobodies have no hearts and a Nobody is created when one dies, by having a strong will. Because they have no heartless to be broght back to their current state, a Nobody can not have a Nobody, even if they could be another Nobody when they die.
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Post by Abigail Parker on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:02 pm

Meh, it was just a theory.

But I thought someone in KHII mentioned that Nobodies are comprised of the body and soul, but lack their heart... So what would happen if you divided the soul from the body...?
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:10 pm

Well, maybe when Kairi(somehow) got a Nobody, due to her never really becoming a Heartless, maybe the He-

Screw that, it's probably an Unbirth.
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:18 pm

or maybe xion isn't a nobody?
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Post by Abigail Parker on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:20 pm

Then why would Xion be in Organization XIII...?
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:21 pm

mabey she "tapped into the darkness" like Riku did...Did i miss something between KH2 and Re: Chain of Memories?
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Post by Abigail Parker on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:24 pm

Not that I know of
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:25 pm

ok jjjwww im getting Re: CoM for Christmas...the card based stuff is gonna suck
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:55 pm

No idea. Kairi had no heart, making a nobody, but there was no Heartless, so where was the soul?

Maybe Unbirths, when powerful enough and all, end up like the Org. XIII.
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:23 pm

Kind of like what you were saying, Nex, maybe since she didn't have a heartless, perhaps...

...Nah...


Spoiler:
Maybe Xion is the Nobody of the Heartless?
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Post by Mitsuki Ishida on Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:37 pm

You can not have a nobody of a heartless. Nobodies are "empty shells". If one was a nobody of a heartless, it would look like that nobody. Plus, Heartless once again have no heart, so they are not strong willing enough to know how to hold onto a form.
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Post by Guest on Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:47 pm

But wait, if a Nobody is the soul and body, would a Nobody of a Nobody be an Unbirth?

Would that be the next thing in the chain?
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Post by Mitsuki Ishida on Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:58 am

I do not know much about the Unbirth. From what I know, they are just some link to heartless and nobodies. For now, lets just no go off thinking Unbirths are Nobodies of Nobodies, because, like I said, Nobodies are just empty shells and only the ones strong enough to maintain their human form are Organization XIII. I find it hard for a Nobody to have a Nobody.
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:09 pm

I was actually thinking that she is probably part of Sora's memory of Kairi that leaked out of the chamber and formed into a Nobody. I mean since she resembles Kairi and wields a key blade, that makes some sense right?
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Post by Abigail Parker on Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:11 pm

By god, I think he's got it!!!

That's actually a pretty damn good theory. Smacks mine down a couple notches anyways... >.>

And it fits some of the stuff said in the trailer. So I think you're onto something, Marluxia.
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:25 pm

...Keep going! Do Eeet!!
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:36 pm

Well,my friend told me that Unbirth are something that is created when someone is destined to become a heartless/Nobody >.>
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:42 pm

i like marluxias theory betta >.<
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:44 pm

I have no theory's on th matter...unfortunately...but I do have a theory about keychain-less keyblades that leaks onto something else...here it is:

Some reports say that in The Kindgom Hearts 2 Final Mix + Secret ending where they are in like an all out brawl, Xeahnort and his apprentice's keyblades have chains, but Terra, Aqua, and Ventus's don't. I looked into this and it is true. This is my theory.

If you ask me...these so called "keyblades" are in fact not keyblades at all, but unique swords. In theorum, I'd say that Xeahnort is really a keyblader from the future to come back to destroy Sora, Riku, and Kairi's ancestors, preventing them from existing because in the future, he was almost defeated by them. Terra, the ancestor of Riku, in otherwords, he worked with the darkness, makes sense, right? And Aqua, the ancestor of Kairi, felt extreme distraught when Ventus was frozen.

And Ventus, the ancestor of Sora, looks alot like Roxas, which is Sora's nobody, once again...makes sense, right? Either way, my theory is concluded in saying that Xeahnort's appearence in the past is connected with Sora and Riku's keyblades later in the future. But what he has to do with it...that is a gap that, unfortunately, remains to be unfilled...

In short, Xeahnort is the cause of Sora and Riku's keyblades, Ventus is Sora's Ancestor due to Ventus looking like Sora's Nobody. Aqua is Kairi's ancestor because of how she acted when Ventus, her "boyfriend" so to speak, was frozen, just as Kairi would act if Sora were frozen. And Terra worked with Xeahnort and darkness at a point, just as Riku works with Ansem and darkness as well. And that, in a nutshell, is my thoery.
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Post by Guest on Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:55 pm

Sorry for the double post, but I DO have a theory after all...

My theory is that since Sora gave Kairi his heart...Kairi had two nobodies...this'll sound crazy, but I think Namine is Kairi's light nobody, her light...and Xion is her dark nodody, her dark. kinda makes since, no?

Oh, and about her name...if you take out the "X" the Organization adds, you are left with ion, if you mix those around, you can make the name Oni, which is Japanese for "demon"
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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:51 am

Hey wait, I think I have something.

Oni = Demon

Demons of the KH Universe = Heartless

Nobody + Heartless = Xion

What I think is that Xion is a "completed" Nobody, which is basically a human with powers and emotions. Maybe later in the game she may be split up, and her Heartless is an Oni. *shrug*
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Post by Guest on Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:01 am

we are so scientific! look at us being all deductive....i have no idea how or where you learned about sora's and kairi's anscestors....
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